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EV Sales Are Just Getting Started?

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Back on topic, some of the things that have been on the news here over the last week are that (1) according to AAA, lithium batteries can lose 41% of their capacity when the temperature is 20° (2) EVs also lose range in extreme heat (3) Tesla Superchargers will not work if your battery is 30% or less, because the battery has to be pre-conditioned to accept a charge at that point.
 


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Back on topic, some of the things that have been on the news here over the last week are that (1) according to AAA, lithium batteries can lose 41% of their capacity when the temperature is 20° (2) EVs also lose range in extreme heat (3) Tesla Superchargers will not work if your battery is 30% or less, because the battery has to be pre-conditioned to accept a charge at that point.
Somewhat bad information, the range loss varies by manufacturer and model. An article I read last week stated that the Jaquar EV had the least loss of 3% which I find hard to believe. If you google the topic, there are many articles that pop up.

"Out of Spec" has done numerous videos regarding charging Teslas in very cold weather without using the BMS (Battery Management System). In one video the charge did not begin for 45 minutes until the battery was warmed up. There is a scenario in the 2wd drive Model 3 where the battery heating system maybe insufficient to heat the battery up in really frigid conditions but only for a couple of model years (strange to say because Tesla does not use model years so the whole thing is confusing).

Back to my experience, I seldom use BMS because I live too close to the supercharger. My charging rate has never slower than 44KW (which is not good) until the battery warms up which can take 20 to 25 minutes (if it is really cold). However, I have never charged below 0 degrees F and hopefully never will.
 


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Fines for building what the people want to punish them for going against junk science.

Edit: We really have entered the "Stupid Ages".
 


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55,000 Challengers sold in 2022 from what I could find would cost just under $1,725 per car.
I can see why they just kept it going.
 


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Tesla and Rivian stock is down, big time.

Meanwhile GM and Furd stock is up...maybe because the saw the light and are busily abandoning the EV crap gospel.
 


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Ford just pushed back the Explorer / Expedition BEV 2 years
Production to start 2027
3200 works at the plant affected
Plus several feeder plants
&
Many tooling plants already working on 2025 26 & 7 models no one hears about

Its a good thing Windsor is building a new battery plant that will hire 2500 people to build batteries for cars that won t exist

Idiots
Idiots everywhere
 


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Dem Rep. Don Davis: I Have Problem with Biden EV Push, I Don’t Trust D.C. to Pick Winners and Losers

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" we just have to not move too quickly here"

Which roughly translates as 'can we please put this crap on hold until after I am re-elected, it's upsetting the despicables'.
 


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Hell yeah
Thanks
 


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I d like to say I m surprised
But I m not

I have had a Ford F150 for 25 years
Ford spent too much time on EV shit & now the F150 is not to appealing

I sure like the 6.2 Chevy thou
Well it took them a while to figure out what most of us already knew...EV is NOT going to be a mainstream path to profitability...(where have we heard that before)...now lets see how long the rest of the industry takes to wake up and take notice...all together now...WE TOLD YA SO :oops::oops::oops:;).
 


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Well it took them a while to figure out what most of us already knew...EV is NOT going to be a mainstream path to profitability...(where have we heard that before)...now lets see how long the rest of the industry takes to wakes up and take notice...all together now...WE TOLD YA SO :oops::oops::oops:;).
Tax dollars are funding this movement. They have been taking the $$$ not caring if it's going to work or not.

GM just reported record setting profits. Hmmmmmm....
 




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