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Anyone have access to the torque specs for these T30 water manifold screws? Looking at T30 screws the max torque is 31.1 - 37.4 Nm (23 to 25 ft/lbs) which feels way too much.

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Anyone have access to the torque specs for these T30 water manifold screws? Looking at T30 screws the max torque is 31.1 - 37.4 Nm (23 to 25 ft/lbs) which feels way too much.

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If you don't find a factory torque spec, look for a spec for the thread size in ALUMINUM, don't even worry about the screw, it's not the limiting factor...
 


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What size are those? M6?
 


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Guy on the other forum posted the factory manual spec at 7 ft/lbs. SDG had 10 ft/lbs when installing their billet manifolds. I went with 10.
 


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5.7lb-ft is what I came up with, but I didn't have all of the variables
 


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What's a couple ft/lbs among friends :LOL:
 


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Bringing this back to life. Planning on re-assembly tomorrow. @16GoManGoHC2 you suggested I use SS button head bolts instead of the plastic push pins on the FI spacers? Do you remember size and thread pitch? I think that's the only thing I don't have sourced.
Mike confirmed these are M8x20mm figured I'd mention it for anyone following a long. I couldn't find them at the big box hw stores so I had to go to Ace. $1.60 each (!) and I needed 4.

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I doubt I'd have gotten it if I could have. There's a limit on this motor and I'm gonna be pushing it as is I "think".
 


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I doubt I'd have gotten it if I could have. There's a limit on this motor and I'm gonna be pushing it as is I "think".
You just pulley up, less restriction. 2.85/10% about the limit but some tuners are saying 2.75/10%
 


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I'll be good where I'm at for what I wanna do. 9.30 to 9.50 at close to 150mph in a car I can drive to the grocery store is good enough for me. I've got some people in the "know" and they told me point blank a 2.85 is the limit on a 2.7L if you want it to last. They would know if you know what I mean.

On the motor I've heard 850rwhp. More than that and you're on borrowed time. I think E85 stretches that a bit due to the cooling so I'm not wanting more than 900 - 925 wheel to keep it on the safe side of things. I don't need another "event" :sneaky:
 


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I doubt I'd have gotten it if I could have. There's a limit on this motor and I'm gonna be pushing it as is I "think".
Pshhhhhh!!! We have the same engine I show no mercy
 


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I'm planning to stay 10% behind where you are :ROFLMAO:
 


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I'm planning to stay 10% behind where you are :ROFLMAO:
Sounds like it’ll be 75 percent cheaper 😂
 


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I'll be good where I'm at for what I wanna do. 9.30 to 9.50 at close to 150mph in a car I can drive to the grocery store is good enough for me. I've got some people in the "know" and they told me point blank a 2.85 is the limit on a 2.7L if you want it to last. They would know if you know what I mean.

On the motor I've heard 850rwhp. More than that and you're on borrowed time. I think E85 stretches that a bit due to the cooling so I'm not wanting more than 900 - 925 wheel to keep it on the safe side of things. I don't need another "event" :sneaky:
SDG blower speed chart for a 2.7 you are fine at 6500 2.85/10%
 


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That's what the chart says.
 


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2.7L Efficiency Chart from SDG for those interested. Of note is the text at the bottom which my attention was drawn to.

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